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They hold any lawmakers accountable? how important might criminal referrals be towards shifting public perception of the committee's work? >> alex, you are less likely to see criminal referrals related to members of congress for a couple of reasons. number one, the evidence is not as significant. number two, when you talk about members of congress, who ignored subpoenas to testify, that is a separation of powers issue. so i think that you will see the committee feel a little bit hesitant to go ask another branch of government, the justice department inside the executive branch to police its ow...

Good to be with you for a second hour this afternoon. i'm katy tur. today, we're learning more about why a walmart supervisor walked into his place of work on tuesday, walmart, and shot six co-workers. what chesapeake police say motivated the shooter to carry out the massacre and how he got the weapon to do it. plus, what president biden is promising to do in the wake of this shooting, and the others we've seen, just in the last seven days. before the house changes hands. and as we enter the holiday season, a health crisis is threatening to overload u.s. hospitals. what mounting cases of r...

It had been 40 consecutive years democrats controlled house of representatives. republicans weren't even close. came into needing a net gain of five seats. couldn't get over 200 seats in the house for 40 years leading up to 1994. what i think 1994 is and story of the podcast is, and why the relevant to today, it's an origin story of the current moment. what's the current moment? the nationalization of our politics. it's the denies, from massachusetts, tin o'neil, a sainted figure in massachusetts politics and political lure but his famous saying was, all politics is local. i think we now lived...

Answer questions. now, in response meadows' lawyers asked a federal judge to put a pause on that while they continue to litigate these larger issues and the house committee has until midnight tonight to respond to that. now, it's really interesting because this case does raise some legitimate questions about the protections that a white house chief of staff, even a former white house chief of staff, should enjoy in an investigation like this, but for right now the strategy from meadows' attorneys is to delay, delay, delay in the hopes that the house changes hands and this issue becomes moot. >...

Impediment. i think we'll see a lot of action with whether or not the subpoenas can proceed. there we may even be lawsuits that will take a longer. time is really of the essence for this committee, as, you know the midterm elections -- if the house changes hands, the house will be gone. >> carol would, you think is next for the january six committee? >> i think what's next is some full-throated public hearings. the hearings that people wanted for the mueller investigatio where there would be wide open komodo -- on national television screen. and which, firsthand witnesses who were there, some ...