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This whole process. by the same token i think easto something wise and saying he's not going to let the legislatio that comes outth of the house e hit the floor in the senate. he standing with the president during the shutdown. i i think republicans are amazingly united in this fight for wall funding. >> i think that mcconnell is just doing what he needs to do because he knows trump is not going to sign the deal. it's idiotic for the government to shut down. you have millions of americans being affected and they can't even pay their bills because th government has shut down. we should be conce...

>> tucker: may i stop you there and ask, my understanding is the conversation fbi agents forms the basis of these charges was a voluntary one -- >> -- correct. >> tucker: which did he not have a lawyer present.rere it took place in the white house.e and if he understood it was an interview he would have had an attorney, correct? but he didn't. so what does that tell you? >> it tells you that for whatever reason, if he made a mistake, if it's an honest mistake that's not what he has pled to. he's pled to lying. whether it's poor judgmentf on his part -- and it is an american tragedy. his 33 yea...

There are specific laws that protect taxpayers and force the irs to comply with the law. somebody at the irs violated the law. whether it is lois lerner or not we will find out. >> the justice department referral is in his words ridiculous. the legal problems may not stop there. they will hold them in contempt of congress for refusing to answer questions after she first offered a defense and then fled the 5th mainedment. it is not clear what specific evidence the house has about learner's conduct. if this case is referred to the justice department that may all be made public. >> live for us in...

Agreeing and the number of people also who wanted their members to stand firm was enough to crash lawmakers' website. capitol hill telephone traffic was operating at capacity today and they say the president made the second request after house e speaker speaker moved to the right to get support after the deficit cutting plan failed to get the votes he needed. he added a requirement that a balanced budget amendment pass by two thirds of the majority in the house of representatives and senate before a second hike in the debt ceiling next year. >> any measure that suggests we should have the deba...