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The south america gang that he seems to be fixated on. the culture war is going to be a central issue in the mid-terms especially in the senate states which as josh pointed out earlier were dealing with two maps this fall. there's the house map which is more suburban, it's more upscale and more purply and blue and the senate map is very different. it's more rural and trumpy and more conservative leaning. trump's message could play okay in some of these senate states. house map is very different story. >> this culture war is obscuring the tax message that a lot of republicans want to be sending...

Problem. i'm going to gin up my base by talking about immigration. >> what other options are there? the president isn't doing an incredible job raising money. i'm not sure of any house races they're trying to get into the district where he refused. so then other than, you know, he's actually pretty good at this, at riling up the base and motivating them, whether it's going to work or not is another question. outside that, how do you use the president in the midterm year? >> i totally agree, this is the best way to use him, stick him in red states where the senate is at risk. it's jarring to he...

Poll at 50%. do they feel the wind at their back now? >> here's the big story. the democratic base is energized, but trump is winning over some of these independent voters that were very much against him early on in his presidency. so you're still seeing a really big field of house races with, but right now the senate, the republicans could pick up a seat in the senate because they're being fought in states that trump did very well in, and the house map is starting to look less like a wave and maybe a ripple. republicans still have to be worried about holding the house, but it's not as bad as ...

Now. >> the leader of the democrats in the house, john, nancy pelosi, is adamant, if you see her talk about this at all or what he says behind the scenes to candidates, we're not talking about that. that is not what we're campaigning on. that is not an issue for us to discuss. let bob mueller finish his job and let the facts fall where they may. and we will see what happens. but you are right, there is a palpable feeling inside the liberal base in the democratic party, especially now in primary season, where you do see some competitive democratic primaries across the country, and the base is p...

Tolerant, negotiating, compromising. it was like he was running in the philly suburbs. >> i think you said this is sort of a post modern meeting. i would say it's a post camp david meeting. i think there's no question that republican leaders when they talked to trump laid out the map. the house map, the republicans if they lose 24 seats, they lose their majority and that -- >> they've lost 18 guys by retirement as of today. >> that is terrifying. and this is something that, you know, the republicans that i talk to, whether they are, you know, never trumpers, whether they're libertarians, where...