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Kill this bill. >> thank you for joining me. >> and joining me, republican congressman burgess, you are one of the people who worked on the aca in the house and i remember he, rand paul came over from the senate. and sort of made fun of you with a copier. you wouldn't let him see the bill. he was poking fun at the secrecy of the house process. shouldn't you be there now? >> can i say a couple things? first, it is good to be on with you again. it has been a little while since we've had a chance to converse on things. the other thing i need to say, it is a week after the terrible shooting at the...

Of the bill should be available by tomorrow. listening to the briefing yesterday at the white house, sean spicer admitting that the president hadn't seen any bit of it so far. is that a good sign for republicans, that they'll have this draft by tomorrow? >> well, president trump and the white house have made pretty clear that they really want a bill to pass, and they made that clear during the house process and now during the senate process. the president's comments about wanting the bill to have more heart than the house version gives him a little space to step back if this whole thing turns ...

Can complain all we want about the way it's conducted but a win is a win if he gets it. >> remember the house process. the original version was scuttled by republicans but had -- when they came out with a second version, it was a similar bill but what got everybody on the table was the fact that leadership needed a win and that's what they're going to put to republican senators, get behind this thing or the rest of the agenda is scuttled and they'd be right in suggesting that. while at the end of the day people will be frustrated with the process as they should be, the alternative is scuttle t...

What's going on. it's so obvious that they're really trying to hide the ball here. >> it's true but it's not without reason and i'm not excusing it. but look what happened in the house process. when the white house got involved and all of these other people got involved, it became a huge mess. i'm not saying this won't end up being a mess. it might be a disaster. but at least in the nuts and bolts when they were putting it together, you remember the president would come out saying hey, we had a deal and would be talking about various things in this bill and it would explode and then the whole ...

So we need to be reading into every interview that they do or learn about. it really should be shrouded in secrecy, correct? >> exactly. and as long as they have clearance, they can talk about anything they need to talk about in the case. iran-cont iran-contra, it's part of the process. we let it play out. let's see what happens. it's going to be fun. elizabeth: the former fbi assistant deputy director. >> thank you, i enjoyed it. leland: amidst the russia turmoil. the white house is committed to repealing and replace obamacare. it's up to the senate to offer their version of how health care i...