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It's unfair. let me just say on these hearings, we had a lot of hearings. the american people knew we had hearings in the house, hearings in the senate, mark-ups in the house, three committees in the house two, committees in the senate. we had an extended period over the summer when three republicans and three democrats in the senate -- senator grassley changed his mind. he took the position for many, many months that in order to make health insurance reform work he needed everybody in the pool. and then he totally changed on that. >> i thought we were talking about the house process. >> we're...

He and his son, that's not a leak, but it is calling them on the carpet for refusing to answer very relevant questions that go to the issue of whether the president of the united states obstructed justice. >> all right, i have to say that i am confused this evening and i would like you to clarify. >> okay. >> last week, the committee voted on party lines to release the nunes memo and not the rebuttal memo. the nunes memo gets declassified and the president released. it comes out, lands largely with a thud, but not to folks like sean hannity and the president. now today they voted unanimously t...

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Just the affordable care act, it's going to get the same polling the president is getting. and it will become more popular if he becomes more popular. that's going to be true throughout. >> kristen welker, you were -- you and phil rucker were both at this event. it struck me watching the president that it dawned on him somewhere while he was surrounded, and it had all the hallmarks of trumpian stagecraft that he seemed to, in the moment, enjoy legislating. do you think he might do more of it? >> well, i do. and i think that what you saw today was that he learned from some of his past mistakes....

Going. >> and you end upped with an extraordinarily popular and important landmark piece of legislation that lasted for 30 years, largely because it was a really good piece of legislation. republicans and democrats said it's not perfect. we'll always have to fix the tax code again and over the years lobbyists piled in and the code got more complicated and more reform was needed. this law, the way it was passed, we have no idea what the effect will be. the process has been an abomination. it's been the opposite of everything we think good legislation about big, big social and domestic and econo...