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Extremely hard on this package of ideals. his vision is broader as is mine. as are many of the senators and the democratic party but we also know that taking this very positive first step is really important and getting these investments in place is essential. so i think there is a lot of good will power and i feel optimistic. we have an opportunity to do another investment and i think we can make those efforts then. i think people will come together, and i think this is an extraordinary opportunity to rebuild the middle class and rebuild the country after a horrible pandemic and it brought ne...

Important, and it will not be minimized, and we will keep fighting for it. >> let me ask you what you're message is to the house progressives. you were in the house before you became a senator. they feel they have given and given and given in terms of compromising. basically saying as of now, to the president of the united states, their party leader, who is making this plea, and saying that i'm not going to do summits, but we could lose control of the house and the senate. if we don't go along. i need a victory. >> yes. >> but they're basically saying we're not going to just accept your leap o...

Talking about, where's the text? she came out and said, the text is up. our producer tells us it's over 2,000 pages. i haven't had time to read it yet, manu. seems you might have. >> yeah. >> but where are we at this moment? >> well, the question is, is that going to be enough to satisfy the progressives? remember what a number of them said was not just text needs to be released, they want the house to actually approve that bill. they also want all 50 senate democrats to say they would support that bill when it comes time for a senate vote. neither of those are expected to happen imminently. y...

People's lives. >> are they shooting for the moon, and it is something so big that instead of focuses on some really positive things for progressives in this final package, if it gets through, and everyone is focused on the top line and then as senator sanders said, we started out at $7 trillion an we have come down a long way. >> i think it is up to us. it is up to leaders voting for this whether or not we want to go talk about what is not in the package or talk about what is in it. i think we go back to november, when mitch mcconnell would be in the senate for the next two years. i think wha...

It and we've been talk, there is so much riding on this. real quickly, gloria, before i let you go. the fact that former president obama is putting out a statement about this and he's basically saying, look, this could be transformational. this is a real big deal. there's a lot in that bill. >> right. >> he's also in that statement saying suck it up. get on board. >> right. >> who is that for, do you think? is that for progressives? >> i think it is. >> for disgruntled voters. >> i think he's talking to progressives, you know, because the progressives are the ones right now who believe that ma...