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Memory. was he really threatened over the story on the sequester? let's spin. save you spence, no he was not. we'll get back to that later. let's start with chris christie and questions about what's going to happen with him for 2016. has he angered the conservative base so much that he couldn't survive a primary? i think at this point associated with the national republican party is not a great thing and him not appearing at cpac probably not a big deal. here's the other thing. plenty of time. re-elected this fall. plenty of time between then and 2016. he can go and yell at some teachers. cut ...

Only. it's worse from their standpoint than the sequester itself and from the republicans' standpoint to get to the point to compromise where revenue or something is on the table they have to stand up to the president and stare him down on the sequester so don't they need to buy some more time and going through here? >> that's right. you can debate whether they're acting rationally. some americans might disagree with that but certainly this is the self interest. that part is very clear. i mean, president obama feels like he ran for re-election on this issue. the question of a balanced approach...

Them happy to cut washington spending and compromise is difficult moving forward. i asked john boehner today whether he's open to grand bargain talks with the president of the united states and said as of right now he likes to do things through regular order so we'll see. >> all right. peter alexander and luke russert, thank you for that. we want to bring in deputy managing editor at politico, rachel smokan. the idea is this is madness, chaos, potentially catastrophic. i guess i sort of have a different take on it. i'm looking at the sort of relevant political actors here and in terms of polit...

Comparable plan of republicans. >> just as -- that's not true. >> well no. but -- >> passed in the house. >> okay. but pete -- hold on, pete. i don't mean to interrupt. it passed in the last congress and by all reasonable estimate there is's no way the republicans have the votes to pass what they passed in the last congress in the new congress. they have not put a new plan forward. >> but they have passed two plans. the issue is with the rhetoric of this administration. is that they talk about the desire of deficit reduction and said in the state of the union nothing adding a single penny to t...

State of the union address. advocated for raising the minimum wage, infrastructure, all things i think to help the middle class and working class. what sort of middle class proposals are you looking for from this president? >> well, i do think the problem with the sequester to bring it -- not just back to that, it cuts a lot of discretionary pieces of the fwhaugt are in good investments, provide equal opportunity and so cutting those and being unwilling, completely unwilling to reform entitlements and taken that off the table -- >> he also talked, though, in the state of the union specifically...