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Hope, the light from the other side here, perhaps coming over the horizon, you know, right now a group of six, three and three, there her, getting together to try to come out with something like the debt commission. something that's positive. howa howard, is it going to work? >> i'm yielding my time, out of fairness. >> if we're talking about long-term entitlement reform, it's not happening before 2012. >> what about these six guys. >> the without and i think the press corps will go at it again and again. when will it happen?

Programs in the short run where we need them to get out of the ditch we're in, and not offering up on entitlements, they're not doing either. what they're doing is just damage as howard points out. they want to talk about big cuts in the short run which will bring our economy back into the second dip again. and they don't care because it may help them next election. >> i think what we have here is rhetoric. >> really partisan. >> very advanced campaign rhetoric, in terms of actually creating jobs and getting us out of the hole, nothing they're doing right now is that concrete. when you talk ab...

>> well, so about it i think will go down as one of those cracks that suggests a callousness about unemployment. what covers him on this, howard? >> it's a little bit like bring it on. remember that? >> yeah, with bush. >> it was not smart politics at all. >> it's wise ass. >> it's wise ass and at a time when people are suffering all over the country, including people who work for the federal government. what boehner is doing is playing to the prejudices in the base of his own party -- >> so you're calling out to get your social security check, the person on the other end of the line is a joke...

In his massive fraud. is this jailhouse pleading or a good question to ask? finally let me finish with the absolute need for senate hearing with this new evidence from secretary rumsfeld that saddam hussein had no nuclear weapons or even the facility to produce them. we begin with john boehner's dismissive response to the fact that the republican budget cuts will kill jobs. alex wagner writes for politicsdaily.com. howard, let's look at the sound on tape, as we call it. here's speaker boehner saying jobs may be lost. let's listen. >> over the last two years since president obama has taken of...

Gingrich, bobby jindal, they're all doing it. howa howard, i have to tell you, this is something like i have never seen before. let's start with these clips from the sunday talk show circuit. republicans ran with mitt romney remarks that the president ran because of giving gifts to minorities and young voters. >> i just think it's nuts. i mean, first of all, it's insulting. this would be like walmart having a bad week and going the customers have really been unruly. i mean, the job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. if we can't offer a better future that is believable t...