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This leak can be shut down. >> is that fair to say, admiral, that the efforts that are taking place right now are just being made up? >> no, i don't think so. we've been in complete partnership and oversight with british petroleum. this is something nobody can do by themselves. they own the means of production at the bottom and there's no human access and everything is done in robs at a depth that's never been tried before. there's working together and holding people accountable and the first order of business is to stop the leak and i hold bushing p accountable to do this and i can tell you t...

Dispersements from the air and mechanical cal skimming but the calculus on what was spill and what is out there is going to take a while to develop. but the work assumption is 5,000 barrels a day. >> the rov s are the remotely operated vehicles you'rousing down there, right? >> that's correct. we're work in an air where that has no human access and we've never had a spill of this significance and this complexity at this depth where everything we did had to be done through remotely operated vehicles. >> what's your assessment? can this four-story containment dome as it's being called, once it's...

Try to keep the damage to a minimum. skimming, controlled burns, plans for drilling a relief well. overseeing the entire operation is the commandant of the coast guard admiral thad allen. earlier you heard him discussing the process of using that containment dome. i also asked him how he felt about the big picture. the efforts to get oil leak under control. here is what he says. >> i have been working oil spill response since 1980, my first oil spill i was actually involved in. as we have evolved, especially with the oil spill that was passed after the exxon valdez in 1990, we have gotten prog...

Over the weekend to see if we can collect the oil and pipe it to the surface. >> is it your esmitt that the gushing is still coming at, what, 5,000 barrels a day, 10,000 barrels a day? is it going up or down? what's the estimate right now? >> we're using a working estimate of 5,000 barrels a day, but i've been careful since the event started not to lock in on a specific estimate, because all we know is what we see with the rovs at the bottom of the ocean and when it hits the surface there's still some in the water column. ultimately we'll have to reconcile what we've been burn off with in situ...

There's a sense here of a greater purpose and that is supporting human access to space beginning to do research and development, giving us the opportunity to go to new places and discover new things. i mean, there really is an exploration aspect to the space program that we have today and the people here are bound together to support that activity and be part of that overall accomplishment. it's not just an accomplishment for people here. it's really something that america should be proud of and that we're here to do that for them. >> you've got to be able to pay for it. president obama's plan...