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Him. is there something or some way you feel like his influence is still present in your career? is there a way that you felt, you know, a profound experience there from your clerkship? >> absolutely. his standards were incredibly high. i think that all of us have learned that there is a very high bar that we try to work to achieve. he had an approach to cases that was very much a lawyerly approach. we did not work on cases as if it were a case about, say, criminal justice or abortion or any large abstract issue. we really worked about it as a case between the individuals between the -- before...

How you look at it? >> well, i think it is a new low. there are real, genuine human consequences to what he's done. i mean, a lot of it is contingent on whether everybody can get together and pass something in the next two days that's retroactively operable which means cobra won't lapse for people and they'll get unemployment checks but there are hundreds of thousands of people and a projected 1.2 million people not getting unemployment if they don't get this done by the end of the week. bunning is complaining he had to miss a basketball game. it just has this sort of like, you know, rome righ...

>> well, i think it is a new low. there are real, genuine human consequences to what he's done. i mean, a lot of it is contingent on whether everybody can get together and pass something in the next two days that's retroactively operable which means cobra won't lapse for people and they'll get unemployment checks but there are hundreds of thousands of people and a projected 1.2 million people not getting unemployment if they don't get this done by the end of the week. bunning is complaining he had to miss a basketball game. it just has this sort of like, you know, rome right at the fall kind o...

Low. there are real, genuine human consequences to what he's done. i mean, a lot of it is contingent on whether everybody can get together and pass something in the next two days that's retroactively operable which means cobra won't lapse for people and they'll get unemployment checks but there are hundreds of thousands of people and a projected 1.2 million people not getting unemployment if they don't get this done by the end of the week. bunning is complaining he had to miss a basketball game. it just has this sort of like, you know, rome right at the fall kind of feel to it that he's fiddli...

Future transportation -- high speed railcars, street cars, which are being put in, have been put in, new streetcar systems in 19 cities, what if we could build those things in detroit, and detroit too could benefit from them themselves. >> and what about people who work in detroit have to say about this concept? did you get a chance to talk with folks who have some history in transportation in detroit? >> well, yes, we did. and i think one of the reasons why detroit was such a good setting for this project is you can really feel the human element. you can really feel the human consequences of ...