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That our nature utterly foul and corrupt. i'm not naive but the bottom line when we stay in touch with that capacity to care and give. we do flourish. >> john: there are some people that flourish being nasty? >> there are certain number of people that technically sociopaths. studies vary but it could be 2% to 3% of the population, it could be 4%. >> john: most of us benefit from being nice. >> this is really interesting question. as a human creature, we cannot give. we cannot be contribute to the lives of others without in fact ourselves feeling a sort of warmth. we have a hormone oxsitocin th...

Right word. it is the thing you're engrossed and you think you know what's happening and then several hours have passed and you understood less than when you started watching. it's like being mind controlled but some sub human creature. >> yes. and my first guest tonight ari melber. i'm sure he has had time to decode it all. >> thanks, lawrence. >> i was in a car tonight when ari began his interview with sam nunberg. i was listening to msnbc on sirius radio. i had to pull over and stop and do absolutely nothing except listen to every word. and for 35 minutes i sat there and listened as sam nun...

It is the thing you're engrossed and you think you know what's happening and then several hours have passed and you understood less than when you started watching. it's like being mind controlled but some sub human creature. >> yes. and my first guest tonight ari melber. i'm sure he has had time to decode it all. >> thanks, lawrence. >> i was in a car tonight when ari began his interview with sam nunberg. i was listening to msnbc on sirius radio. i had to pull over and stop and do absolutely nothing except listen to every word. and for 35 minutes i sat there and listened as sam nunberg unravel...