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Human dimension. a large disaster for the country. 200,000 being cared for by the government. officials reminding us these are people undergoing a crushing life changing emergency unfolding before our eyes. mike mccaul joins us now. our hearts are with you. are you confident that they have a handle on it despite the overwhelming challenge that they face? >> i do. i've been in charge of oversight of the department of homeland security since katrina, rita, sandy. this has been the worst disaster in the state of texas in terms of flooding. in fact for the entire united states. but i have to say i...

And just on a human dimension, someone who if you look at some of the phoenix news reports coming out here, people who have covered him for years, likened his own tent city camps where he kept people to, quote, concentration camps. so there is also people who are saying is this a message possibly to individuals in the mueller probe that the president is willing to use his presidential powers to this extreme and to this extent? but also i think more immediately, alex, a message to some of those agents who are out there rounding up immigrants right now that, hey, if you support my ideology and m...

Prussia issue that's drowning it out. it not to say that that's not important but these are very important for the future of the world. are they not? >> absolutely. three years ago, isis came on the world stage. 30,000 strong. largest terror organization ever created. they raced across the border into iraq and caused the iraqi army to flee on television, as we saw. they took control of the major city in iraq. years ago, three. it produced the toughest infantry fighting the seen since world war ii. block by block, building by building. room by room. thousands of civilians killed by isis if they...

It is horrible, sorted. of greater concern to me is what ted kennedy did in 1984, sitting down with the soviets saying we have to get rid of this reagan guy. that to me, in terms of public morality, is a far more egregious sin. the human dimension of what happened at chappaquiddick something that cost kennedy the presidency. >> eric: the reason i started the book with this, she died. everyone knew about it pretty was reelected several times. >> eboni: people's memories can be very short and people going to reinvent their legacies as they would have them. people get up are reminded of the histo...

Necessarily, demeaning, underlying every stage by legitimate investigators for months now. you have to ask what is this all about that he doesn't want us to see? his finances, doesn't want us to know about the dealings of russia and those of his family and campaign. why is there all of this smoke? >> one of the things i am curious on is the human dimension of this. one of his closest advisers who is also his son-in-law, theoretically there would not be able to talk to each other about this ongoing investigation. if they both have attorneys and both being a focus of an investigation i assume th...