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African-american in space. the shuttle program will be near and dear to your heart. i think it was '92 when you went up, but the program is going away. now, is it time for it to go and move on? or are you sad to see it go? well, i don't think, you know, my interest in space exploration is not a tie to a particular vehicle. my interest is tied to how do we expand human presence? i think there is something that connects us also that we were talking about before the break, which is space exploration really bolsters americans' interest in science and technology fields. it was in the '60s when i de...

Idea of human exploration and let's get the next thing. >> are you saying, if we have a little lull, if we're quiet for a while, and quite frankly, people don't see live events and those live, dramatic launches that inspire us all, we could see a number of drop-off of people getting into the science fields because that's a powerful image. >> i think the image is powerful, because remember, i didn't get to see the shuttle, i got to see the mercury and apollo guys. so when i look at what's going on with space exploration right now, i think there are some positives out there. what the administrat...

Our capacity, even for a short period of time, of getting people up. but that $6 billion says, we want to make things move forward. so i think that's a discussion not about, you know, people interpret the cancellation of a constellation program as we're not involved in space explo explorati exploration. that's not either shape or form. that's a program where i'm not so sure it was good to harken back to the glory days of apollo. we have more stuff in front of us. of that's what we have. when we have women and underrepresented minorities, this it diversity of people involved with solutions to t...

The test form. >> they are running tests and finding out what is happening on the ice sheets and this is real technology and they are not making it up. bill: it could be the next great break through. is it how nasa gates arounets a funding threats we have reported on, with the space program. >> honestly i'll go out on a limb and, as strange as it may look that is the future of human exploration. for, like i said, a hundredth or a thousandth of the cost of sending people to space you can send them to mars -- not just to mars, you can have robot sail bother on the lakes of titan and, robot ballo...

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