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welcome to hardtalk. jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoon...

jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in th...

to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartooni...

today isjonathan shapiro, best known by his pen name zapiro. he is south africa's most prominent and controversial political cartoonist. so amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by your pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. it is a great pleasure to meet you and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago, you said moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you have been at this cartooning for four decades. can you maintain outrage forfour four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. outrage ...

>> hi, nicolle. i only ask of you one thing, and we make no predictions. i just ask that you don't go on vacation or stay near your phone or facetime and broadcasting abilities, okay? >> i feel like the whole summer is potentially hazardous for vacation planning. i haven't totally broken this until this moment on live tv to my family but i feel like between jack smith and willis it's dicey. >> to your family and everyone, we say, that's a little bit of personal breaking news. good to see you, nicolle. >> have a good show. >> thank you. our thanks to our colleague nicolle. welcome to ...