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In -- and they're open and they do other things. the others go into acting because they can't do that. in acting it allows them that freedom. i think there's -- i'm sure there's people who are a little bit of both. >> do you enjoy fame? >> this play i did, remember the local stigmatic, which you saw, the movie of, i filmed it, that the quotation in there, from the author at the start was fame is the perversion of the natural human instinct for validation and attention. can you follow that? >> larry: yeah. >> i didn't make it up, but i just said it. it's a strange thing. when it first happened ...

In acting it allows them that freedom. i think there's -- i'm sure there's people who are a little bit of both. >> do you enjoy fame? >> this play i did, remember the local stigmatic, which you saw, the movie of, i filmed it, that the quotation in there, from the author at the start was fame is the perversion of the natural human instinct for validation and attention. can you follow that? >> larry: yeah. >> i didn't make it up, but i just said it. it's a strange thing. when it first happened to me, it was quite daunting, and i got the best advice i ever got -- >> the godfather? >> after the bi...

Freedom. i think there's -- i'm sure there's people who are a little bit of both. >> do you enjoy fame? >> this play i did, remember the local stigmatic, which you saw, the movie of, i filmed it, that the quotation in there, from the author at the start was fame is the perversion of the natural human instinct for validation and attention. can you follow that? >> larry: yeah. >> i didn't make it up, but i just said it. it's a strange thing. when it first happened to me, it was quite daunting, and i got the best advice i ever got -- >> the godfather? >> after the big movie started coming out. it...