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The time, doesn't not necessarily show that there was either one of the pilots that were involved, but i do believe that whatever happened happened from the cockpit. you know, whether that was human intervention, whether it was one of the pilots, both of the piles, or somebody coming into the cockpit, we've seen before that this airline has had what i call a cockpit not always locked in flight which is what it's supposed to be. we don't even know if there's somebody else in the cockpit, a jump seat rider, an extra person or not. but at this stage, i mean, we don't know if one or both of those ...

Kind of pilot operation? >> we know the plane could not have gone deep into the south indian ocean at 12,000 feet, it had to be at its optimal flight altitude of 35,000 feet. one source says it went down to 12. if it went down to 12, it had to go back up again to 35. that could only be done either on the yoke or the auto pilot. so the view -- look, let's be blunt about this. the view of most of the people you talk to is that nefarious human intervention brought this down. i still say it's best to wait a little longer until we have concrete evidence upon which -- it's too important to jump to t...

Rational thinking, what could have presented that caused this aircraft to be in this part of the world, that far off course, if the gyrations are true, if they're not true, how could that have happened? we have gone through explanations. some absolutely not really plausible. and some -- we've had some validity. electrical fires, mechanical problems. fires in the cargo bay. people being -- intruders into the aircraft, the cockpit, the crew. you know, each one really has to be looked at. i mean, if you come to a conclusion too early, that's what you're going to focus on. and that's what you're g...

And so what he is taking the leap of is that it has to be human intervention because if you go down, you have to come up by human intervention. >> kyung lah with the search in perth, australia. let's hope they do find something that offers these families at least some information or maybe possibly some hope. thank you, kyung. appreciate it. back to kyung lah. searchers could use better weather as you heard her talking about over the water today. but the conditions will still pose some challenges. i want to get to the meteorologist now p.j. how is it looking out there today in. >> as good as it...

That reliably. i want to hold off on that until i figure it out that there was distress going on in that airplane. >> bobby? >> from a search and recovery perspective, we've just got to get our hands around this and see how this might affect where we need to look. and what we need to do about it. and be careful about how we handle this. >> ken christianson? >> focus on e radar date, a where it was lost and follow -- >> i think you said don't effect on on where it was lost. you said focus on the radar data, correct? >> the data that you have, that's where you need to go. and then you'll find th...