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In other words, the president had to make a call between dropping a drone, which would have almost certainly killed bin laden but everybody else and perhaps with very little evidence, or going in. my mind goes back to desert one, that famous case where president carter tried to re could you the iranian hostages and ended up in a total fiasco. for logistical reasons. a sandstorm in the desert. dirt got into the helicopters. >> right. >> how much would you have worried about those issues when deciding to go for a human operation here? >> i would have been very worried, and i know my friends at t...

Operations. was it a very risky operation? the president had to make a call between dropping a drone, which would have killed bin laden and everybody else and perhaps with very little evidence or going in. mir mind goes back to desert one, that famous case where president carter tried to re could you the iranian hostages and ended up in a total fiasco. a sandstorm in the desert and dirt got into the helicopters. how much would you have worried about those issues when deciding to go for a human operation here? >> i would have been very worried, and i know my friends at the agency were very worr...

Targets. and so my inclination was to think that this might have been a drone, but i was told a human operation. so we'll have to learn a little bit more about how that was conceived and how that was carried out. it's very clear, then, that we had some kind of a lead and were tracking osama bin laden who, after all, seemed not to have been in a cave. another question i have, wolf, on a more philosophical level, is that we'll be talking about what this does to america's prestige around the world. one of my sources was e-mailing me and saying, what does it now say about our ability as a country ...

And north africa, a region you know so well from covering it, and we've done it together over the last decade and more, that it happens at this moment that osama bin laden is dead, i think we would be silly not to understand the potential -- the magnification of the moment. it is such a huge moment anyway. but that it happens now in the middle of all this dramatic change to the middle east and north africa throughout the arab world, it is hard -- and you have more questions than answers. as we always do in such huge breaking news, more questions than answers. but wow, it is such a monumental c...

They literally form constellations. boat captains follow the constellations of the oil platforms. and when it's at that scale and that much human operation of oil platforms out there, sooner or later human error will come into play. we will inevitably get this again unless we begin to look for alternatives like offshore wind. >> you know, mike, frankly, are you surprised we don't see disasters like this more often? i think most people would be surprised to hear how you just described some 4,000 rigs out there. i mean, the potential for this to happen is constant. >> the number one thing protec...