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Radicalization, the same process whatever you are dealing with, white nationalists, brown muslim supremacists, the same human process. whether it is individuals, terrorism is something that is learned, that kind of hatred is learned. it can be learned in countries, it can be learned coming out of country and arriving on shores for that radicalized process. every process is different for individuals depending where they are coming from, what their ethnic backgrounds might be. out gery and colonial experience in france in morocco the same thing. in france and spain there are larger pockets of th...

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Lenient in today's current environment, where admittedly -- martha: really? >> everyone has sort of terrorism fatigue. it is tough to understand and remind ourselves about how difficult this situation is because anybody who, who recalls 9/11 in a vivid way, they're not going to forget but for a lot of people, particularly younger people, it's a point in the history books, i hate to say that. so when they look at something like this, they have a hard time understanding why it is a serious issue. martha: two things, when i look at this, maybe i watch too many tv shows, like "24" and "homeland." ...