BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 23:53:00
You want, but actually to make them almost frozen with fear. well, you could argue it exactly the other way around. if i were to lie to you, if i were to say, "actually, it's not so bad, yeah, i'm sure it'll be fine, "you know, wejust had to make a few little micro consumerist tweaks here, stop using plastic straws, stop using cotton buds, and then that'll be fine", that would also put people off because people would say, "well, i'm not being spoken to honestly here, and i don't believe that what you're advocating is in any way commensurate with the scale of the problem that you're describing....