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Fewer people are going to church? >> no. no, it's not. i think when we take a look at what the issue is right now. this is not a religious issue. i think all of us, whether you are a believer or not, we can use our human reason to say that even if somebody is doing something wrong, like crossing the border illegally, and i think that is wrong. >> juan: that's immoral, that's wrong. >> absolutely. it does not mean that therefore we can do whatever we want to them. we have to be able to stand up as a country. >> juan: wait a minute. you can't put somebody in jail for breaking the law? >> no. i d...

Fewer people are going to church? >> no. no, it's not. i think when we take a look at what the issue is right now. this is not a religious issue. i think all of us, whether you are a believer or not, we can use our human reason to say that even if somebody is doing something wrong, like crossing the border illegally, and i think that is wrong. >> juan: that's immoral, that's wrong. >> absolutely. it does not mean that therefore we can do whatever we want to them. we have to be able to stand up as a country. >> juan: wait a minute. you can't put somebody in jail for breaking the law? >> no. i d...

In the presidential campaign media like a debate. the dirty little secret is that most of them don't care about policy, but that's just too obvious, and it's been too obvious for too long, so it really isn't any kind of secret at all. most of the media covering campaigns do not care about candidates' positions on the issues. they only care about polls and performance, on-stage performance, and they care about those things more than policy for a very simple human reason, something we're all guilty of. it's much easier to care about polls and performance. it doesn't require any homework at all. ...

Gas at civilians. these rockets were fired from a regime-controlled neighborhood and landed in opposition neighborhoods. it's an insult to human reason and to the legitimacy of this institution to suggest that anyone other than the regime carried out this attack. >> talking points agrees with mr. obama on that point, but also well understands that the u.n. doesn't care whether assad killed children with gas. most countries simply don't want to take any military action at any time for any reason. now, whether president obama understands what he's up against the u.n., i don't know. nevertheless,...