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And the only way to do that is by not hating those who persecute us, who put us into prison, and rather, try to work out of reconciliation and out of solidarity of all nicaraguans. it's very, very hard because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and in peace. and that's my faith and that's my commitment to every nicarag...

Those who persecute us, who put us into prison, and rather try to work out of reconciliation, out of solidarity of all nicaraguans. it's very, very hard because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and in peace. and that's my faith and that's my commitment to every nicaraguan. how can you not hate daniel 0rtega after thi...

Because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and in peace. and that's my faith and that's my commitment to every nicaraguan. how can you not hate daniel 0rtega after this? i think that nobody can build anything productive out of hatred. i strongly disagree with him in many, many areas. and i think he's a war criminal. i ...

Who put us into prison, and rather try to work out of reconciliation and out of solidarity of all nicaraguans. it's very, very hard because the natural human tendency when you go through so much suffering, is to basically hate those who put you in that situation, who made our family suffer. in my case, i made it very clear i hold no hatred for any nicaraguans. we want a democracy, even for sandinistas. we can have a country for all of us in tolerance and in peace. and that's my faith and that's my commitment to every nicaraguan. how can you not hated aniel 0rtega after this? i think that nobod...

You said, i have been doing a heart audit, a heart audit to make sure that we come out of this horrendous place without emotional scars that would hinder the work that is still to be done. what do you mean by this audit of the heart? i think it is very personalfor me. my father was a political prisoner. he was tortured under the somoza dictatorship. later, during my years as a young kid, i was a refugee in the united states for another situation, the civil war of nicaragua. and what i've noticed is that nicaragua has a cycle of violence. those who fight the dictatorship at the end, they become...