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I'm just wondering about the human thing here. you know, people are not in the military or in espionage, they're always amazed at the classic role of justice where spies are executed even though they're the most courageous warriors. these sort of rules of warfare are so harsh. here you have this guy, this frail guy who doesn't look threatening to anyone, who may be naive beyond belief who couldn't possibly have realized what he was walking into is now going to lose -- spend the rest of his life practically in fort leavenworth surrounded by people who won't like him. that's my question. this pu...

There's a distinction here in the fact that lgbt people come into this world naturally that way, catholics are raised up, there are a growing number of disenfranchised catholics refreshed by what pope frances has to say. instead of the tightening grip we saw under pope senior, you know, we're seeing the wide embrace from pope frances who's willing to talk about things. mika, you bring up a point about andrea and women in the clergy, if they would allow for priests to get married we would see an elevation of women within the church itself. instead of forcing people to abdicate the most human th...

Everything to preserve it. that's just a human thing. but you should have some culpability for starting this action. and there's none. >> these stand your ground laws take our humanity away, our civility away. yes, if you're in your home and someone breaks in, you have every right to stand your ground and protect your family. but if you're out in the street, you mean to tell me you don't have any civility to try to retreat and say let me get away? let's try to work this out. that's what stand your ground does. it allows you to kill. we've got to look at that. >> it sends an irresponsible messa...

And if you engage in a fight and you start to lose that fight, the idea of self-defense can switch personage. you had it first when i was following you and i engaged you. the moment that i start to lose it bounces from you to me. >> in my interview, the juror said that's what they looked at, what happened in those final minutes in that fight. he feared for his life. so he was -- >> and that's a moral question. how is it possible that you could even write a law where you have no culpability? i'm not saying that if you feel like your life is about to be taken that you shouldn't do everything to ...

The moment that i start to lose it bounces from you to me. >> in my interview, the juror said that's what they looked at, what happened in those final minutes in that fight. he feared for his life. >> and that's a moral question. how is it possible that you could even write a law where you have no culpability? i'm not saying that if you feel like your life is about to be taken that you shouldn't do everything to preserve it. that's just a human thing. but you should have some culpability for starting this action. and there's none. >> these stand your ground laws take our humanity away, our civ...