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Uniformed men and women locking arms across the border is the image of the president wants to convey. >> martha: he wants a human wall. >> if you want to cross, here is a portal, there is a portal, i don't try to come anywhere about this portal. >> martha: the migrants say, we are going to look for an open spot. if they see the open spot, they will take it. >> if they are patient and the government follows the law, every one of them will get an interview at a legitimate, lawful lace. >> martha: thank you. she is back just in time for the midterms. oprah winfrey is set to hit the campaign trail...

Yet, basted on some of the committee tear i havcommentary . is it time to aaddress it. >> there are ways to address the immigration crisis. actually the border wall and actually an individual wall and a human wall is not the way to best address the issue. to to show this is a man made crisis. 12 months into the administration all of a sudden after the if a there was a daca deal ran away from. and deploy people. it sounds like to me texas has it under control for the state of texas. that's really what the concern is right now. look at federalism and what the national guard is in place to do. th...

Yet, based on some of the commentary, there isn't a crisis at our border. would you acknowledge that we do not have our hand around the border and now is the time to a address it? >> there are ways to address the immigration crisis. an individual wall and human wall is not the best way to address it. it's been 12 months into his administration. after this last fall of congress which there is a daca deal, nowa we want to deploy people. it sounds that texas has it under control for the state of texas. federalism and what the national guard is in place to do. states have to drop what they do. why...

Border. it does -- i mean to you, is this about politics at all, as some have said? >> you know, listen, sure. i think it matters politically in that he's delivering on a political promise. i think that does matter, and i think it's also about politics because the congress refused to recognize the will of the people, who elected trump knowing that a foundational promise of his campaign was to build a border wall. they gave him 1.6 billion instead of $25 billion, which is what he requested. i think this is his way to say in the meantime, before we build the full wall that we should build, in th...

To, while they were trying to hire up more border officers, they were using national guard to fill more clerical duties that would free up other border agents to actually work on the border. it does -- i mean to you, is this about politics at all, as some have said? >> you know, listen, sure. i think it matters politically in that he's delivering on a political promise. i think that does matter, and i think it's also about politics because the congress refused to recognize the will of the people, who elected trump knowing that a foundational promise of his campaign was to build a border wall. ...