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Hydrogen explosions, effectively the kidneys of the power plant have been removed. so they're just accumulating movie. that's more of a technical issue. but we have this whole issue about it is incomprehensible that they could allow workers to go into the power plant without those devices during normal operations, much less post accident conditions. and then we get a radiation reading and we're all trying to make sense of it and understand what's going on, the blogs are going on all over the world earlier in the week about potential criticality. then we come back a day later and say the readin...

So there is a growing resentment, both among the evacuees and the general public, anderson. >> michael, at this point what are you most concerned about, just watching what's gone on today at the plant? >> well, anderson, there's a couple of things. number one, they've made a bit of an effort in terms of bringing in this mega barge to hold up to 4 million gallons of contaminated water. but that's just going to be a drop in the bucket. we no as a consequence of the hydrogen explosions, effectively the kidneys of the power plant have been removed. so they're just accumulating movie. that's more o...

Already under way in the cores. the fuel rods in the cores. and the fourth reactor, the core was taken out and put in the spent fuel pond. and they're jammed in with other fuel is a possibility that that could also melt or catch fire. you have these high radiation levels spiking up, spiking down, leading to a situation that, frankly, no one knows how to end. >> well, i was going to ask you, is this now beyond japan's ability to contain it? >> well, frankly, honestly, i do believe this is beyond the ability of japanese thors and those heroic workers despite their best efforts to really contain....

Frankly, no one knows how to end. >> well, i was going to ask you, is this now beyond japan's ability to contain it? >> well, frankly, honestly, i do believe this is beyond the ability of japanese authorities and those heroic workers despite their best efforts to really contain. you have to understand what they're doing now is not in any safety manual. there's no plan for moving fire trucks on the beach and pumping seawater into reactor cores. there's no plan for what they're doing in the least threatening facilities, five and six, where they've had to punch holes in the wall to prevent a dama...

Allowing radioactive material from the core to leak out. it could have happened when the hydrogen explosions were occurring. but what does this mean to you? does this make it more likely that's going to be difficult to bring this situation under control? >> yeah. a couple points. number one, we have a relatively high degree of certainty now, given the events of the last couple of weeks, that the reactor fuel pins themselves to a greater or lesser degree, have been compromised. we don't know exactly the nature, but we know that much of the radioactive iodine, as jim walsh was mentioning, indeed...