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With anita hill. and a lot of people asking why we shouldn't do that here because mike barnacle things just continue to get murkier and murkier as we move along we have a second accuser, but, again, just as many questions around the facts from three plus decades ago, in an alcohol fueled incident if you believe what we're reading in these reports. and so we need somebody to sort through it and it certainly is the case that members of the senate judiciary committee are not capable of doing that in a straightforward nonpartisan manner >> joe, we talked about it easterly but the hyper partisanshi...

Immediate hyper partisanship, but also hyper democracy, jeffrey, as you said. jeffrey, i'm curious, your thoughts also on -- on the reality we've been hearing about for the past 20 years, that sometime in the next few decades whites will no longer be a majority of the united states. you look at the immigration patterns into western europe and central europe. you see so much of the nationalism, so much of the populism that's threatening democratic norms, and i wonder how much you believe these demographic changes are making -- making what we're seeing in europe and america predictable, but i wo...

Rosen points out in this issue that james madison if he came back to life today would be horrified by what he would see in the way our business is conducted. the hyper partisanship, the direct emotional appeals by a president to the people, gerrymandering, all of the rest. we are losing the habits and we're losing our early knowledge of what makes democracy viable and sustainable. >> jeffrey, it's richard. besides happy new year, let me raise the question of why this is happening. to what extent is it because we don't teach civics in our schools? to what extent is it gerrymandering? to what ex...

Direction by you and your colleagues? >> i have great respect for the constitution and our democracy, and i respect the fact that he was elected our president. i respect the fact that not everybody in the country agrees with me and my values. i think that one of the reasons i'm so excited to see a wave of veterans running for office on both sides is because we're used to wokking with people we disagree with, strategically, tactically. we're used to putting the mission first and understand that the important thing is to put people and the security of our country over politics and partisan. so, ...

Is not coming from the other chamber. the senate has shown absolutely no interest in this. so i just chalk this up as being hyper partisanship and political. and i think we have made the wrong decision by bringing the members of congress, the republicans, into the circle here. >> so now i want your help on understanding this latest clue of where the president is coming from on this. the tweet that seems to suggest that this confidential source was paid more for this than other things. if the person early in my campaign wasn't a spy, why did he get seemingly massive amounts of money for service...