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Proposal, "no budget, no pay." even president trump thinks chances are less than 50/50 they'll get a deal done. here's what's clear. as long as hyperpartisan media is fanning the flames, it's going to be an uphill climb. case in point, the president claimed ten times over 22 days of the shutdown that women had been found bound and gagged by smugglers at the border. but the agency was scrambling for information to back up the president's claims. we haven't been able to review that e-mail. but we need to have a fact-based, not fear-fueled debate on these issues if we're going to make any biparti...

Enthusiastically embracing his role as the number one defender and surrogate. i don't think he's doing himself any favors, but good people can disagree honestly, here's the larger point, donald trump in this iteration of the campaign has basically surround himself with an alt-right rogue's gallery, and the hyperpartisan media, particularly breitbart, david bosse, citizens united, who in the '90s was doing investigations against clinton. this stuff is marrow deep. they're getting their fantasy baseball game about blowing up all of their conspiracy series because it's what they know, it's the pl...

In this. we're married, rudy giuliani introduced us, he's not the one driving the strategy. the guy driving the strategy is david bosse and steve bannon, the guys from bright part. they've been replaying this '90s strategy against the clintons. >> you have to -- rudy giuliani is the face, he's the one going on every show and defending this strategy. >> look, he -- rudy is enthusiastically embracing his role as the number one defender and surrogate. i don't think he's doing himself any favors, but good people can disagree honestly, here's the larger point, donald trump in this iteration of the ...

Its way into academic books. i wrote a piece about this and traced how this infected actual journalism, because people say they don't see wayne madsen later. they say "the guardian," who is a very reputable newspaper, a very good newspaper and "the observer" is also. so, that is ultimately the problem here is you get these people who are trolling for clicks and hits and viewers, and ultimately, it gets the stamp of quality of a real newspaper, and then you know, it filters out. >> i want to bring in our panel here on this conversation, because one of the real problems of our time is policing h...

You have a hyperpartisan media. and you just have the -- you could talk about this later. the public itself is -- he does have a lot of hurdles against him and put the question on you in the democratic party. what -- >> don't equate me with that, but go ahead. >> what is the answer. >> real quick. >> it has to be something other than we can't get done. >> the problem right now is that neither side feels that it actually has much incentive to compromise and both sides are groups on both sides which feel they have more to win by being a holdout. >> but that is just all politics and all about win...