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Obviously you served with dennis hastert. >> i did. >> today's news is upsetting and sad. your response to it? >> well one, i was totally surprised. i know there was this tendency for people to say i knew that. i don't think anybody knew that. look being openly gay, serving in the u.s. house, if there was any scuttlebutt about that i would have heard about it. if there were any rumors. so this comes as a total surprise. the most important point that i want to stress is once again the hypocrisy of it. obviously there's an age question. >> misconduct is alleged. i just want to make sure i can sa...

Happening inside the democratic party. hillary clinton is nervous about it. bernie sanders who by the way you've seen suddenly with elizabeth warren out he is topping the sort of second place vote. he is suddenly getting into the team. in many ways he is more articulate on this issue than elizabeth warren is. >> and she is going to push it he is going to push it. many of the democrats in congress are going to push it. the critical question here is where is hillary clinton between president obama on the one hand and elizabeth warren/bernie sanders on the other hand? she needs to show her hand a...

Iraqi invasion. today, it breaks my heart to see how many people are so against the use of force in any situation that they are willing to -- >> i fell -- that's exactly how i feel. i feel the british parliament made the wrong call twice. they were wrong about iraq. >> yes, yes. >> no evidence of wmd and i think they have wrong about this because i think when somebody has so brazenly used chemical weapons against all international law, you have a moral duty to take action. >> yeah, you know, i think people bring up the hypocrisy issue we intervene in some places and don't in others. that's abs...

My fellow liberals embracing the iraqi invasion. today, it breaks my heart to see how many people are so against the use of force in any situation that they are willing to -- >> i fell -- that's exactly how i feel. i feel the british parliament made the wrong call twice. they were wrong about iraq. >> yes, yes. >> no evidence of wmd and i think they have wrong about this because i think when somebody has so brazenly used chemical weapons against all international law, you have a moral duty to take action. >> yeah, you know, i think people bring up the hypocrisy issue we intervene in some place...

Curious thing? >> how about politics? >> i goal for that. and in what way? >> well, i think that by a certain point virtually nothing president bush did was going to win approval by anybody. >> bill: well at least the bush policies were condemned by the left some conservatives stood by the president. four days before secretary gates said that bob beckel and i discussed the hypocrisy issue. >> now, remember the outcry about waterboarding? >> sure. >> everybody jumping up and down? >> yeah. >> nbc news, i thought they were going to melt down over there. >> um-huh. >> you have heard anything on n...