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Firing missiles. do you think a military confrontation might be inevitable? >> now, here's what i think, we know from 2005 when we put sanctions, financial sanctions on the banks in china that were necessary for the support of the system in north korea, that the dictator at that time could not pay his generals and they did not have the poen for their icbm program and they had to discontinue momentarily for a period of many months that program. we need to do that again. that's what these sanctions are intended to do. we need the china merchant bank and we need the agricultural bank of china the...

Weapons program, their missile program, especially their icbm program. the intercontinental program that allows them to hit the united states. in order to get them to do that, we need to really raise this economic pressure level. and that's going to require cooperation from all parties. so i do think it's achievable if we're steady about it. if we tone down the rhetoric and we work together. so i do believe in congress, you're going to have a bipartisan effort to really enforce the u.n. sanctions and make sure that china, especially, is serious about doing it. we saw that china was cutting dow...

Sanctions on the missile program. the iranian economy is hurting. they want more money for their military and revolutionary guards and they're very frustrated because they feel they thought they had us coned with the kerry, obama deal and they find out they don't. that said the iranian parliament still are willing to cut back on popular expenditures in order to fund terrorism abroad. they just allocated another $800 million for the revolutionary guard. they've allocated more funds for their missile program, icbm program. i think there is -- in this troubled, troubled world we may wind up with ...

North korea. basically what you saw was everyone come together and say this is got to stop. this is not something we think can be casually dealt with and i think they hit him and basically we hit them back. >> jon: john garamendi of california, a member of the armed services committee and the subcommittee on strategic forces. he was on the korean peninsula a few weeks ago and was briefed on the regime and their icbm program. you must be heartened by the u.n. sanctions and especially by the fact that russia and china joined in. >> it's very, very good news. it is extremely good news and that's ...

Is it possible that iranians have been involved with helping them with this program or at least in their icbm program. >> i'm unaware of that i mean, they have clearly developed some indigenous ability to build missiles and to mount weapons on them now. and they have been recruiting expertise for quite a long time, including from the former soviet union. and but i think a lot of people now believe that they have their own capability, that they are much less dependent on the outsiders than they were in the past. >> jon: so that makes them, i mean, a legitimate threat. they have already proven t...