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Korean aggression or to adventureism? because in the past, while china has supported north korea as its only military ally, it is usually restrained it. it is usually acted as a kind of break on some of this. what is going on in that relationship? >> so i think, as you mentioned, i think this is a very important point. the environment is continuing north korea their testing and continuing to develop their program because the russian's invasion of ukraine, the political environment has changed. china and russia are absolutely not interested in helping the international community in terms of sor...

Only military ally, it is usually restrained it. it is usually acted as a kind of break on some of this. what is going on in that relationship? >> so i think, as you mentioned, i think this is a very important point. the external environment is continuing to support north korea's nuclear testing and continuing to develop their program, because the russian's invasion of ukraine, the political environment has changed. china and russia are absolutely not interested in helping the international community in terms of sort of curbing north korean behavior. even after icbm testing, the united nations...

Launches. what about about their statement after? >> well, i think the relates of what is taking place here is that north korea has never recovered from the frustration they experienced this 2019 with president trump at the summit. when president trump picked up the table and walked out. and he walked out because it was obvious that north korea was just seeking sanction relief and concessions from us and wasn't going to give us anything in return. and he has done about -- since that time somewhere in the neighborhood of close to 50 rocket and missile tests. he has avoided the long range icbm t...

Shouldn't wait, we are months behind, and i know this war has only been going on for a handful of weeks but we've known for months that this was there and we should have been stacking the weapons, javelins, missiles, stingers, all the things the ukrainians need to defend themselves for months and months and months. instead i hope we get them to them fast in a serious way. >> sean: one of the things we got to keep in mind as we see hostilities with north korea heating up and their icbm testing, doesn't always work out well for them. then we have this iranian deal now back on the table, which se...

Erica, that -- that's just in his head. there's nothing he can point to that says look here in this document that kim jong-un signed as to proving that the threat is completely removed. so that is just president trump's feeling after his conversations but he can't actually point and say this is the proof that the threat is removed. >> ian, go ahead. >> you're righting that there's nothing in the document that proves that but there's a lot of north korea's actions over the course of the past few months. certainly the summit between president moon and south korea and kim jong-un and the confiden...