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Believe that person to be a gang member or criminal, we are not permitted to make the arrest of the alien. we have to wait until that person is committing a crime or arrested by another law enforcement agency and placed in jail. >> chris, you have been told and other ice agents are told not to arrest these people, that is an order begin from above and only get involve would if another law enforcement agency first took action, is that what i am hearing you? >> that's correct. >> that is unbelievable. >> absolutely. it gets worse from there, governor. now we are restricted to enforcing the natio...

>> brian: they have those at nbc? >> steve: as a former employee of nbc, i met a couple. >> gretchen: let's talk about immigration reform. the president is moving ahead and going to go on the road to talk about his plan for reform. there could be something miss not guilty that because he seems to be ignoring the concerns of the immigration department that might have something to say about it. apparently there was a letter written about six weeks ago from the national ice council, from the president, chris crane. it said we are concerned to see president obama is urging congress to rush immigra...

Is here to tell us what happened today. >> today was the first hearing on the hill. immigration reform. since bipartisan group of senators, four republicans and four democrats reported progress in crafting comprehensive immigration reform. that package appears to be gaining pretty much broad support and not a moment too soon. the senate judiciary committee got an earful from panelists today describing the dysfunction of the president immigration policy. d.h.s. secretary janet napolitano came under special criticism. they cited documents showing the ice agent that laid the arrest of a child rap...

Lawsuit against this administration because you know, they've put us in this position where they're ordering us not to enforce the law and if we refuse those orders, and attempt to enforce the law, then we, as officers, will be disciplined up to and including removal. so, absolutely. when you look at-- and i want to be very clear here. one of the things we do as agents, work in jails and prisons and the new ice policies tell us when we go into prisons and jails, we have to apply this policy that says, you know, hey, if you're here -- if you entered the united states illegally, that's okay. and...

Lawsuit against this administration because you know, they've put us in this position where they're ordering us not to enforce the law and if we refuse those orders, and attempt to enforce the law, then we, as officers, will be disciplined up to and including removal. so, absolutely. when you look at-- and i want to be very clear here. one of the things we do as agents, work in jails and prisons and the new ice policies tell us when we go into prisons and jails, we have to apply this policy that says, you know, hey, if you're here -- if you entered the united states illegally, that's okay. and...