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Happened in terms of a president whose information ecosystem comes from id logically driven by and large, cable television and i'm not trying to be clever, not trying to be dismissive, that's a clinical observation. you have a series of people who are coming in, who have pretty clear ideological agendas or at least play people who have clear ideological agendas on tv. so that's how the president knows them. and if you have any doubt and i know you have a family connection to this that the national security advisor matters enormously, all you have to do is look at mcgeorge bundy, you look at he...

>> just a pure process question, then another subject. if repeal and delay were to be passed, you know, don't you think that some people would be within their rights to be concerned if republicans couldn't get something through now, why should it be any different over the next year or two? wouldn't there be a real possibility there never would be a replace? >> the repeal portion is the one that partisanship aside, id logically, there's a deep divide between members of congress. it's the repeal portion more so than the replace debate. hopefully, between republicans and democrats, you won't see ...

Closer to the liberal wing. it would change the balance of the court. they decided not even to hold hearings and now look at this, donald trump is president, he's got his own nominee up there, neil gorsuch and he would probably slide right there to where scalia was, id logically. democrats, they're furious, they think a seat was stolen that president obama should have been appointed on the other hand, it will not change if this appointment goes through the overall balance of the court from what it's been for the last few years. the dilemma for democrats, you're furious, you think you were robb...

There because you can't really split hairs like that andit's bo waterboard them or hold them with their arms above their head. >> rather be dead than go through some kind of torture. >> not me. not me. >> who knows what kind of condition. living is certainly the preference. >> yes. i mean, they're caught in this. they're caught in an imponl place because they haven't been id logically. that's ideologically different. they support torture -- by the way, they have not negated anything in the report. clearly they're defending themselves -- >> oh, yes they have. >> basically said we did not do any...

Id logically. that's ideologically different. they support torture -- by the way, they have not negated anything in the report. clearly they're defending themselves -- >> oh, yes they have. >> basically said we did not do any of this stuff. >> they've chosen a few things and tried to provide perspective. their main defense is and they knew about it. we briefed them. not only did they say it was okay, they said you're too risk averse, you should be doing more. and now the democrats are like i don't remember that. >> we have to get up and lie to cofs"zls as mark udall shows they've lied to congr...