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During at the height of the surge in afghanistan. this is just being responsible but what's also interesting to me is how bannon's world view really approximates the most extreme obamaits, remember, complete withdrawal from afghanistan was the obama administration's idea back in 2012, 2013 until they realized that history wasn't quite going their way and they had to keep a force in place. >> but the anecdote of the story was based on did happen, trump did get mad at mcmaster for going back to the south koreans and trying to patch things p but this is after the president himself who has this ve...

Elizabeth: it does, but it is not. leland: magic. [laughter] elizabeth: came up with the idea back in 2007 to raise awareness about energy consumption and climate change. i hope that you abided by the rules -- leland: evidently, somebody didn't get the memo. elizabeth: between 9:30 and to 10:30. leland: all right, and now to texas, because we can, and this video's too good to pass up. a police officer in temple, texas, was trying to corral a runaway cow. evidently, that's what police officers in temple, texas, do. he closes the gate there, and then the cow turns around and comes back the other...

Raise it to the horizon. >> this isn't my gaze, but your party. >> we've been too timid on policy. we've been too timid on vision. we have none. this is what i think we can unify over which is so people understand why we make decisions on a day-to-day basis, they don't understand where we're going. we have to show people where we're going and what horizon we're shooting for. what are our ideas and apply them to the problems of the day to get solutions for working families so they can get ahead and they can see that we can get this american idea back. that's the problem. we fight over tactics, ...

Live at 7:30 eastern time. i wonder, kelly, who does that? who does that? that's just -- you get that personal. >> apparently the governor missed that whole chapter between rush limbaugh and sandra fluke, the woman who testified on capitol hill and he went so personal in his comments about her and that backfired. she became more empowered. certainly the governor's position about abortion rights is well known. so a lot of the other things he said didn't surprise anyone. but to go that personal against a woman who had obviously touched a nerve, had a lot of support and simply used the democratic...

Almost universally supported. they voted it through in the house. they paid for it to some extent withes their constituents in the mid terms. but i think that bringing that idea back is such a nonstarter that i can't imagine a compromise position between the white house, which is saying they want to protect medicare recipients, and vouchers. i don't think that will fly with democrats at all. >> what's striking to me is that these issues are still so hard and that the election didn't seem to solve them completely enough. >> well, that's a statement rather than a question. so i'll just talk abou...