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You can't make certain cuts so they become more drastic. in this situation they could have made more long-term. they have multiple deadlines, as we all know. what people in congress are talking about, how to combine them. how do you combine the sequester with the budget battle coming up, with the debt ceiling fight that's going to come back again. how do you add those together so you come up with a larger deal. >> the washington dimension is striking, too. now you have bob woodward of the "washington post" taking on the white house saying the president is moving the goalpost by insisting on ta...

Number one agenda is to slow down the recovery of our economy. that needs to be called out. it is a fact that sequester is going to have an impact, particularly on education in our state and i think also in louisiana. it's going to have an impact on innovation investments. it's going to have an impact on infrastructure investments. those three things have been formula for our growing in massachusetts faster than growth rate, coming out of recession faster than other states. it's a winning formula for the nation. we can't slow that down. >> one thing for the record, i think the white house stip...

Leaders -- the idea the president hasn't reached out is just not true, not factual. he's reached out. he's talked to republican leaders. he's put a plan on the table. now it's the congress's opportunity this week, as they come back from listening to their constituents about all the hurt that's going to be taking place in the country as a result of this sequester. i believe these members of congress will push their leaders to say let's fix this before friday. >> fair enough. as the chief executive, does the president have a unique responsibility to do something to break this impasse even if he ...

I will say this. we will never compromise on safety. people are going to be safe flying. >> here is the reality. this is 2% of your budget. a billion dollars is a lot of money to anybody, right. but relative to the federal budget, it's relatively small. why, instead of worrying about dire consequences aren't you and your managers coming up with the best way to make these cuts that protect essential services. >> we are going to protect essential services and we're going to look at all of our contracts. we're going to look at all nonpersonnel items that we can. in the end, the largest amount of ...

Is more important and appropriate. >> look at the polling, governor jindal. the white house point is the president campaigned on his theory of the case for economic growth, for fiscal balance. it included more revenues, some of which came as a result of the fiscal cliff fight. now he's talking about closing additional loopholes. john boehner himself, the speaker of the house, said this would hurt national security to let the sequester go forward. why not agree to additional revenues for cuts. >> we are for growth. we are for growing american economy and not the government economy. the greed of...