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Which is the deadline on paying our bills. really talking not just in a speculative way but talking in a very serious way about having the fg default in its obligations. i think it's pure madness to do either but most people think that tends to be better for the country, purely to make an idealogical point. we should have debates about job creation and debt, that should happen all the time. we should not put the full faith and credit of the united states on the line or shut the government down to somehow prove a point that some group wants us to prove on the landscape of american public policy...

You got dolan saying i'm going to have to stop giving to the poor. he actually threatened he wouldn't be able to continue doing charity work to some extent when he gets 62% of the charity money from the government in the first place. bill: tucker. >> it is clearly more important to the ideologues pushing this rule that they somehow make an idealogical point about contraception or women's health the than serving the poor. look, you will actually in the end force catholic charities out of the business of helping poor people. and i guess that's okay. >> i don't know how you force catholic chariti...