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There lot of people but are other things going on here too. one of them are show in the book is just a continuation of an old marxistno idea. you know, there were from a foster 70s '80s onward, a group of people, marxists and post-marxists for whom the working class have left them down. if the working class never did come up with a revolution inn america. they wanted to get these new groups, as they saw them, identity groups, ethnic identity groups, raciall identity groups, minority identity groups. they want to these people to all be brought together to further and actually this time bring ab...

Reasons. there are different groups of people. one group who just pushing this because this is naked politics. and this, i take each of these issues in the madness of crowd one by one, gay, women, race and trans. in each of these you see the naked root politics at some point. for instance, you get the thing where there are gay people who are conservative and, therefore, denounced by the gay press as no longer gay. i, by the way, have that again this week in america. then you get women who have the wrong politics, ie conservative, and they are said no longer to be feminists. have you black amer...

>> well, there are severalal reasons. different groups of people who are responsible. there's one group or just pushing this because th is naked politics and i take each of these issues one by one. i do women, race, and trans and each of these ones you see the naked route politics at some point. for instance, you get the thing where there are gay people who are conservative and therefore denounced by the space express ag no longer gay. i had that again this week in america. then you get women who have the wrong politics, i.e. conservative, and they are sent no longer to be feminist. you have b...

Susceptible to hacking. and that's it. steve? steve: all right, brian. thank you. after major backlash "the washington post" has retracted portions of this op-ed entitled how white nationalists align themselves with the anti-abortion movement. lisa: the op-ed initially went after conservative j.d. vance and his pro-life stance. our next guest is arguing the reason why in a new op-ed saying, quote: in a morally unhinged road in the new left. his cleskive our is incomprehensible because we are all split up according to competing identity groups according to race, ethnicity, gender faith and spir...

The united states on the civil literary and left would say something about that. what does that tell you? >> i think that they are applauding it because it goes back to what you and lisa were talking about earlier. i think identity politics presupposes an ever more powerful state to mediate relations between all of the different identity groups. and this is one of the things that we should be allowed to talk about. as we saw, i mean, it is actually hilarious. you laughed at the chelsea clinton clip. it is fantastic that chelsea clinton is being blamed for a mass murderer in new zealand for iss...