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Ideology problem on immigration and education or is he bill clinton who ran against his own party said democrats have to be different. we're wrong on some issues and we have to change if we're going to win and his viability as a general election candidate helped him survive some inner party challenges? >> i think he wants to be a bill clinton. but they're going to do their darnedest to make him the hillary clinton and i think that's what he -- remember he's talked about wanting to run with joy. >> with joy. >> a real desire. he can see the path from march 2016 on. what he can't live with is be...

Poll to poll. listen, i think he has two major challenges here. one, when he came in people said oh he is big on style and low on substance. i think we have actually seen the opposite. which is whether you agree or disagree with what he has done, he has managed to get a lot done. health insurance reform. financial reform. saving the economy from the brink of collapse. >> aleasia, the problem is that the american public is rejecting what he has done so far. they don't agree with the substance. >> that brings me to my second point which is i think they have a structure challenge with a lot of th...

Communications problem. they have a content and competency problem. >> substance and ideology problem. this is beyond buyer's remorse. we are nearing full on product recall for president obama. this is really the nader of his presidency. it's not just the poll. cbs numbers, "the washington post" earlier in the week. essentially all said the same thing. obama's problem is the flight of i wants away from him and his agenda. 56 disapproval rating from independents. that's how much he got from him in the 2008 election to elect him. 56 disapproval rating on health care. people actually don't believ...

Challenges here. one, when he came in people said oh he is big on style and low on substance. i think we have actually seen the opposite. which is whether you agree or disagree with what he has done, he has managed to get a lot done. health insurance reform. financial reform. saving the economy from the brink of collapse. >> aleasia, the problem is that the american public is rejecting what he has done so far. they don't agree with the substance. >> that brings me to my second point which is i think they have a structure challenge with a lot of the policies they have put in place which is peop...

In las vegas. we know how many people are killed by crazy white men with guns. >> harris: i want to talk about that a bit because you are talking about it before we went live here. or just your thoughts. maybe they're not a rebuttal. >> andrew: not a rebuttal. in fact, i agree with it jessica. the president uses twitter more effectively than anybody in the land but to leave this on chuck schumer because of a piece of legislation that republicans passed in a republican president signed in 1990 is not going to withstand. >> harris: we are just reporting on what they are saying. >> lisa: pointing...