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Of any weapons but each time he went back the other way his hand went down inside the boat out of our view. and i know everybody here, we've spoken about it each time he did that, we had to assume he was reaching for either a weapon, firearm, or some type of explosive ignition device to try to draw us in and then take us out in a suicide-type manner. he did that a couple of times, as we're still approaching towards him. we got close enough that at one point where both of his hands were up, because of the rocking back and forth, both of his hands were up, we could see there were no weapons, no ...

Him. >> we got close enough that at the one point where both of his hands were up because of the rocking back and forth, both of his hands were up, we could see no weapons in them. no ignition devices, broke away from the shield protective cover and just rushed him. we put hands on him, grabbed him and pulled him off the boat. down onto the ground. >> the reason the s.w.a.t. team immediately pulled off his shirt was to check if he was wearing some kind of explosives, possibly even a suicide vest. with less than $100 and access to the internet, you can actually build a pressure cooker bomb. l...

As we were still approaching towards him. we got close enough that at one point, where both of his hands were up, because of the rocking back and forth, both of his hands were up, we could see that there were no weapons in them, no ignition devices, we broke away from the shield protective cover and we just rushed him. we put hands on him, grabbed him and pulled him off the boat. down on to the ground. at that point, it just became i don't want to say typical, but an arrest situation. you check the suspect for weapons. of course him, we had to check him for explosives, take his sweatshirt off ...

Not only to the explosion that we talked about so much, but that physical evidence you were just talking about. yes, they found a lot of things right now. they have what they believe to be the backpack that was carried in. this some of it was found on a roof top as we predicted might be yesterday and some of the ignition devices. if you take all of the activity on that map and what might have happened there and you can connect it to this, then you have not only visual evidence but physical evidence that can lead to an arrest and maybe a solid case. >> tom foreman in our virtual studio it is un...

To put together a nuclear bomb. they have to have a detonation device. are they testing one? >> we do know from previous reports, they have tested some sort of ignition devices. there is a chamber there and we suspect intelligence shows that they have been putting that piece together. if you look at the pieces of the program, it's like a top secret recipe inside the kitchen. we know that they have the recipe. we know they know how to bake the cake and they have all the pieces and bowls laid out and over seven pre-heated. if we can have a surprise inspections to go on in, we caught you with flo...