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An effort to try to discredit me, discredit president obama. but of course it didn't work, and in fact backfired because everybody could see that it was the first foray into this really aggressive use of social media that they later perfected in the 2016 election. >> you also as nato ambassador certainly experienced a lot of the ups and downs of nato expansion and putin's objections to it. here putin apparently engaged the president, perhaps in that two-hour private conversation, about montenegro and its role in nato. >> also remember that montenegro was subject to a russian plot itself. the r...

Jeremy, who in the u.s. government knows what went on in that one on one? because vladimir putin is spinning it today in moscow. >> nobody knows other than the president. on a bipartisan basis, we should want to know what the united states' position is vis-à-vis russia. to your question, i've been talking to intelligence professionals, i've been talking also to leadership of nato intelligence agencies, some of whom were here at this conference. they basically are saying, we're working together, we're forging ahead, we're strengthen iing ou intelligence and working against nato. we're ignoring...

All of the criticism of peter strzok that we saw, you know, from republicans at that hearing and gosh knows he was controversial, he, for a decade, was in charge of this big counterintelligence operation against a canadian, a russian couple, through canada, went to harvard, who were the models for the americans. >> a number of models that the russian intelligence services have for decades open rate e s they call their illegals network. people who were not officially connected with the russian embassy, any russian organization that swims below the surface. if you've seen "americans," you know t...

White house correspondent jeremy bash. and msnbc global affairs analyst john mclaughlin, acting cia director. kristen, the mixed messages from the president continuing. sarah sanders trying to say yesterday that the president wasn't saying that he believed russian intelligence, even though he said that, and another interview with cbs where he for the first time came down hard on vladimir putin. what are we to make of all of this and what is the intelligence community to make of all of it? >> reporter: i think first of all, in terms of what to make in terms of what's happening here at the white...