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>> i don't buy that at all. what i'm saying is this column all started with people coming up to me saying we're going to lose, aren't we? trump's going to win again. and that's what made me sit back and really articulate what i felt when i watched that democratic debate. i heard a lot of things i agree with. a lot of things i agree with. but i heard things that i was shocked by. the idea that we would decriminalize entry into this country, you could just walk in? >> illegal entry. >> i believe you should ring the doorbell when you come to my house or my country. it's a little tick i have. the ...

And that's what made me sit back and really articulate what i felt when i watched that democratic debate. i heard a lot of things i agree with. a lot of things i agree with. but i heard things that i was shocked by. the idea that we would decriminalize entry into this country, you could just walk in? >> illegal entry. >> i believe you should ring the doorbell when you come to my house or my country. it's a little tick i have. the idea that we're going to give health care to all these undocumented immigrants when we have health demands from americans like veterans that are really in need? i hea...

And not how we're also going to grow the pie, how we're going to enable small business to take off in this country and create more good jobs, jobs that come with real benefits. >> i love tracking what the new words are in the economy. vocabulary. binary is the new word everybody is using. is your column arguing that the choice is binary? you say you want a revolution, that's one thing. if you want to beat donald trump, that is quite another. >> i don't buy that at all. what i'm saying is this column all started with people coming up to me saying we're going to lose, aren't we? trump's going to...

Word games. she says she did not create the policy, which wasn't the question, but in any case, it's not quite accurate, either. she admits to seeing and weighing in on a draft version back in december of 2017 that offered the option of separating family units. when it became public last month, her spokesperson tried to suggest without actually saying that the secretary never wanted family separation, and it's true that the final declared policy does not explicitly say that children will be taken from their parents. the press release is titled, "the attorney general announces zero-tolerance po...

Family separation, and it's true that the final declared policy does not explicitly say that children will be taken from their parents. the press release is titled, "the attorney general announces zero-tolerance policy for criminal illegal entry." however, what that zero-tolerance policy called for could not have resulted in anything but taking kids from their parents, which is exactly what happened. thousands of times over. which is exactly what jeff sessions and john kelly said would be a deterrent, which secretary nielsen now says is not a deterrent, it was never meant to be. and what she c...