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Part of that is standard procedure. he has a small aspect in terms of something larger here. we do not have anything to show that there was collusion between the trump campaign and the russians at this point in time. it will be a longer investigation before that even if it comes out at all. >> can i touch on a couple of points? we do have some evidence of collusion saying that donald trump jr. was willing to meet with people from the russian government. but you cannot take help from a foreign hostile government as a campaign in a federal campaign because of campaign finance laws. that is consi...

Too and become a problem inside the white house. we now have a lot of backbiting and suspicions among the senior staff about who's leaking to whom, who can you trust and it's really a toxic environment. >> debbie, let me go back to you since we've got you back now. the list that "the new york times" put out about possible legal jeopardy for donald trump jr. is collusion, conspiracy, election law violations, illegal hacking, what do you say? >> oh, my god, he is facing so many different issues it's almost like a prosecutor's dream dealing with it. first, on the campaign finance laws, no america...