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Identify the animal, so to give your viewers some idea, we do have sharks in australian waters, but it's not every day that we do see a white shark over three metres long — and i'm talking a great white shark. most of sydney's beaches have been closed, including here in bondi. many swimmers have said that while they want to go back into the water, they were quite shaken by what happened. this is the city's first fatal shark attack in nearly six decades, one that has devastated a community and shocked sydneysiders. shaima khalil, bbc news, sydney. we can talk professor gavin naylor, at the fl...

Enemy forces. can you expand on this? >> absolutely. russian doctrine is coming. they're just now showing it. russian doctrine is to bomb cities into submission. i'm talking, thousands of rounds. in the battle of grozny, when they suffered just a few casualties, they started bombing 30,000 rounds a day of or tillty. that's about a round every 30 seconds for 24 hours. anybody who's on the streets at this moment in a position needs to have an escape, a tunnel, a sewer, something to jump into, because you have -- in order to survive, they have to survive that initial bombing, which russia will do...

>> not directly yet. we're establishing contact with them. >> reporter: permanent military presence in poland and other eastern european countries now after what's happening in ukraine? >> we've always been all there, all nato countries. >> reporter: i'm talking about permanent basis. >> that's a decision to be made. i'm sorry. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> nothing is off the table. >> reporter: do you think russia is committing war crimes in ukraine? >> we are following if very closely. it's early to say that. >> for the people of ukraine, pope francis is asking for prayers and fasting. what...

That is a blue wall of nato. but there are a lot of countries of nato that are allies of the united states, that are innocent countries that are not nato member countries, and they are terrified right now. i'm taulking, of course, about finland, i'm talking, of course, about sweden, and you were talking about earlier in the segment, sir, moldova. what do you think putin is likely to do next if ukraine actually falls and he occupies it? >> well, first of all, i don't accept the assumption that it will fall. second, the last thing he wants is another front. he can barely keep this one supplied, ...

Is not working, people being turned away. this can be done, and it can be done speedily. >> in the meantime, sanctions are being pushed in place in the hopes that it will squeeze out president putin into moving away from ukraine. part of that is oil and gas of course, sanctions on that. as we move away from relying on russian oil and gas, either directly or indirectly. which is labor propose we do? >> that's what i'm talking about today, in manchester. the key thing here is we need a green energy sprint. what we need to do for energy security, to keep prices as low as we can, and obviously for...