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We will separate you from your children if you come to this country. they're doing what they said they would do. it's their policy. >> so it was designed as a deterrent. now it's in the spotlight. now there's a backlash. do you think it actually could change now? >> let me just say this. the editorial board, you know, we came out and talked about this again this week. we feel very strongly about this. if e-ma if people are outraged, they can call their member of congress and ask them to hold the president accountable. they can protest. they can donate to organizations that help immigrant group...

Jeff sessions made a speech saying don't come to this country. we will separate you from your children if you come to this country. he's -- they're doing what they said they would do. it's their policy. >> it was designed as a deterrent. now it's in the spotlight and now there's backlash. do you think it could change now? >> let me just say this. we came out and talked about this again this week. we feel very strongly about this. if people are outraged they can do a few things. call their member of congress and ask them to hold the president accountable. they can protest. they can donate to or...

Vote? i thought xavier becerra should have run for governor out there. maybe it's too soon after being ag. and mayor villaraigosa is running strong. is it a state to be blunt where messing with the latino vote is stupid? >> that's a really good question, something that we cover extensively at "the l.a. times." because it's not always what you would assume. and in fact in 2016, there was a strong assumption that there would be huge latino turnout that would vote against president trump or donald trump at that time as a candidate nationally for some of the policies that he was promising to imple...

Disrespect to television personalities or to tv producers. but it's probably not the right filter through which the leader of the free world should be getting facts. his immediate reactions, which are understandable on a human level but not the basis for the policies of a great nation. >> julian, do you think who he's been talking to explains his tweets this morning? >> a little bit. that trifecta captures the world president trump pace attention to. the conservative media, the conservative base with corey lewandowski, and finally entertainment. i think he's hearing voices similar to his own. ...

This is? >> it's important. we want an accurate count. let's defer to the experts. will it help with accuracy? it will not because people will not answer the question when census-takers knock on people's door. they have signs that say no i.n.s., no i.c.e. people are reluctant to talk to the government if they think they're up to some purpose like deporting them. i say don't quote any partisans, only ask professional nonpartisan experts what is the best practice. they will all say asking about citizenship is a bad idea. >> he wrote a book about voting rights. he tweeted this, i spent time recen...