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Convention that the president refused to decline and the urban league that no one attempted to attend and the national urban league, it's about economics, potentially for urban america and black america. even when they had that meeting, the original meeting. so there was no buy-in for the black or the brown community on this. and i talked to some former labor department personnel from the obama administration. i'm going to read something to you, chris. it says, while low-skill immigrants compete against the lowest skilled u.s. workers, mostly not african-americans, they do not significantly di...

Flake, who just came out and is bashing his party really needs to step up to the plate. he is not only a libertarian, but he is pro immigration. where are the hearings and the oversight on i.c.e. why isn't jeff flake, lindsey graham, those folks holding oversight hearings because the abuses are reprehensible. >> yeah. the other thing that stood out for me, which is again, if you look at kind of political strategy and feeding that base -- and i remind people that i do not represent npr. they distribute my show, but this is me, is the discussion around people of color and them being the primary ...

Jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios, megan murphy, editor of bloomberg business week, elise jordan, a "time" columnist and msnbc political analyst. who does this help? >> let's put the facts in context. he can talk all he wants about it advantaging the meramerican worker but all research says it does the opposite. we have a low unemployment rate as it is right now and a slow growth rate. immigration, legal immigration, actualry boosts the american economy, expands the economy, particularly at the lower skilled sector of the workforce where frankly it's difficult to attract ame...

Administration even attempted to attend. and the national urban league, the premise is about economic, particularly for urban america, black america. you've had the cbc. we haven't heard them talk about this, even when they did have that meeting, the original meeting. so there was no buy-in for the black or the brown community on this. and i talked to some former labor department personnel from the obama administration. i'm going to read something to you, chris. it says, while low-skill immigrants compete against the lowest skilled u.s. workers, mostly not african-americans, they do not signif...

English proficiency -- >> right. my grandparents on both sides, it says right here, ability to speak english. there goes the cuomos and rafas. they wouldn't have gotten in. the ability to pay for your own health care. most of the generation came here with nothing. and then you have how this talk went down, april ryan. you were there. look, we've seen some changes in tone and tenure when it. coulds comes to how the white house communicates with the country. let's play a piece of this. >> the people who are going to hurt the most are the policy that you're advocating are immigrant workers and af...