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>> and the pinto. >> i think that overestimates his flex ability, his personality is so engaging. he's been doing things that makes no sense except for his ego. the one case we have is where he talked about moving away from his base, he got somehow intimidated out of it. but the last point, the one that makes me feel secure politically is i can't think of any group or anything dramatic enough for him to do. is he going to come out for roe v. wade? >> he's already teed up. >> it hasn't happened. >> there's a lot that people -- i was going to say unfortunately -- like about him. and to me that h...

>> i think that overestimates his flex ability, his personality is so engaging. he's been doing things that makes no sense except for his ego. the one case we have is where he talked about moving away from his base, he got somehow intimidated out of it. but the last point, the one that makes me feel secure politically is i can't think of any group or anything dramatic enough for him to do. is he going to come out for roe v. wade? >> he's already teed up. >> it hasn't happened. >> there's a lot that people -- i was going to say unfortunately -- like about him. and to me that has shifted is othe...

>> you know the republican politics on this. if he doesn't get the wall up or he does get a portion, which is a waste of money, but if he gets the money, even in exchange for d.a.c.a., the wild people on the right will say amnesty. he's betrayed his people. and won't they grab him for that. any compromise involves, maybe not a path to citizenship immediately, but certainly d.a.c.a. isn't he getting in trouble with his right wing? >> you're right. and we tried to move an immigration solution and yes, the far right attacked that viciously and the president is obviously very sensitive to those ki...

I think he's bent for trouble. i think he's going to shoot the moon like you do in hearts. it's classic bring down the temple donald trump. your thoughts? >> to joy's point and i still think of politics as the art of the possible and last year in the senate, a pathway to citizenship for dreamers got 56 votes without any support from the white house at all. if this white house were to invest in an effort to get republicans on board, they could get this done. >> where are the other four votes? you need 60. >> that's why i think this is the biggest missed opportunity for this administration. they...

I think he's going to shoot the moon mp it's classic bring down the temple. donald trump. >> to joy's point and i still think of politics as the art of the possible and last year in the senate, a pathway to citizenship for dreamers got 56 votes without any support from the white house at all. if this white house were to invest in an effort to get republicans on board, they could get this done. and that's why i think this is the biggest missed opportunity for this administration. they could have got immigration reform done if any republican president could have gotten it done, it was donald tru...