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Infection are able to combat the omicron variant. and why we are likely also contributing to the decreased severity of cases. while t-cell immunity will keep people out of the hospital, essentially turning sars covid two into a cold or mild flu in individuals to really stop a person from getting infected that's when those antibodies of the innate immune system comes in. the reason people get recommending boosters is that decreases your chance of getting infected. it doesn't bring it to zero and it will never get to zero. targeting the high-risk populations, those over the age of 50 or around t...

My weird little paper cdc card. very odd comparison. one last quick question. boosters, you and i were speaking many times on-air. and you were skeptical about the need for universal boosters. have you changed your mind about that given what we're learning about waning immunity from two must have shot vaccines, all the studies suggesting you knee tleed shots to fight off this new omicron variant. >> we do need an additional dose. there are different reasons we give boosters. you have waning immunity, which to be clear, we still have not seen real waning immunity against severe disease, hospita...

Example, that matters. and not only, that you can't say that i might get omicron and be severe because you can't guarantee that you're going to get omicron and not delta. in hence, i think that the best strategy during the search, we could talk about efficacy, we can talk about biometrics later, but the best part during this acute setting is for all of us to continue to maintain and take advantage of those boosters. >> so one side is that people are going out of the way to say that maybe i could get this thing is going to be good for me, but the other thing is people are going out to get a fou...

We've got cal berkeley law professor john you and immunologist, -- thank you to you both. doctor, let's go to you first. i want to talk about schools and testing. a lot of public health officials now including dr. mcgarry are saying this universal testing for schoolkids is becoming wasteful, that essentially we are using a whole lot of tests, tens of millions of tests, on a low risk population that really could be better serving high-risk populations like the elderly or the immunocompromised. what do you think? >> well, in general i agree. i think that these tests unfortunately are very volati...

They started with those in that age group who were immunocompromised. is that the next step? israel has often been ahead of the u.s. on its vaccine program. is that what's next for us? >> i don't think we can say that's what's next in the sense that we're all looking carefully at how to best use these vaccines. they're remarkable tools but they're not perfect. if we end up finding ourselves in a position where we need to basically boost someone every six to seven months, that's going to be a challenge. we can't do that for the world. i think you're going to see a lot of discussion over the cou...