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If he calls him, is schiff compelled to testify or could he fight it? >> he is not. bet the house, schiff will never get up there and subject himself to a real cross examination. when did you -- when did your staff or you meet with whistleblower? what was said? were any notes taken? were any documents and reports performed? have you had any contacts with the whistleblower's lawyer? or frankly any of the other witnesses? none of that will happen. that's why the president can fairly argue hey, this is a star chamber and we're not getting due process. >> bill: last point on this. it is my underst...

Expect to see some of the fireworks on that standpointed at other members as opposed to the witnesses. >> so scholars and impeachment experts on wednesday. garrett haake, thank you. let me bring in glen kirchner, former federal prosecutor, also a msnbc legal analyst, and yamiche alcindor, pbs "newshour" white house correspondent. she is also an msnbc political contributor. thanks to both of you. mr. kirchner, i'll start with you, sir. if you were a house judiciary committee chairman nadler, if you were him right now, planning on how you would kick off this next phase of the impeachment inquiry...

Leaders, outstanding diplomat, very precise, very professional. considered an excellent mentor, you know, a good leader. >> the house judiciary committee announced yesterday that it's going to hold its first impeachment hearing next week. president trump has recently blasted the allies showing that the impeachment hearing was failing due process for the president. in a letter announcing the hearing, jerry nadler invited trump and his lawyers to participate. and at the same time warned that continued stonewalling could have consequences, including losing the right to participate in the process....

Happen if he was ever thrown under the bus. >> you can assume i talk to him early and often and have a very, very good relationship with him and all of these comments, which are totally insulting. i've seen things written like he's going to throw me under the bus. i say he isn't but i have insurance. >> stay tuned for what rudy says in response to trump's latest comments and all of this is happening while we're one step closer to seeing articles of oimpeachment drawn up against the president. the house scheduled its first impeachment hearing for december 1st. entitled the impeachment hearing i...

The title of the hearing, the impeachment inquiry into president donald j. trump, constitutional grounds for presidential impeachment. a democratic aide tells nbc news that the witnesses for this first hearing will be academics like constitutional scholars and impeachment experts. judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler sent a letter to trump asking whether he and his counsel plan to attend the hearing and question witnesses. chairman nadler reminded the president house rules do entail him as chairman to curtail that, if quote you continue to refuse to make witnesses and documents available ...