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2016 we don't want to predict. but if i were a gambling man today, i think it's a 65% chance the democrats win the house. >> do you, i think it's interesting how republicans in the house and senate have turned impeachment issue against the democrats. how much are you hearing that as a offensive message as opposed to a defensive message from republican campaign strategists. >> we did an event with nancy pelosi a week or two ago and she said to us, we need to not be talking about impeachment. we need to not be talking about russia. the way democrats see this issue is impeachment and russia are i...

Especially but i want to start with this impeachment issue. heidi you're here. you just interviewed harry reid before. maybe he didn't know he had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. one thing about harry reid, he doesn't run away from controversy. he'll doing the controversy thing. he's afraid of the impeachment message. >> he grew very animated about this. helened forward and he said i have a message to all of my colleagues, please stop. he specifically called out tom stier as well. the party elders know that the party, the republican party is looking for that thing. that thing that will ...

Of their caucus which is being amplified by the entirety of the gop pull put there's pressure coming from big democratic donors like billionaire tom stye who are has been holding down halls to fire up that progressive pro-impeachment base. you seem to be in the minority in the progressive movement as far as leadership is concerned when it comes campaigning on the impeachment issue. why do you believe you're right and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are wrong? >> we're trying to tell a truth that we believe is the most important truth in american politics today. we're trying to put the interest ...

Judicial system and making a federal judge angry? >> the only thing i can think of is it's a political play which is to say that -- and i'm not sure that trump is thinking this far out. >> no. >> but let's assume he is. let's assume he's a rational actor for a moment and it's a political play. he's been advised he's likely not going to get charged as a sitting president right now so what is going to play out is there will be a report and it will go to congress and it will be an impeachment issue for congress to deal with at which point it turns political so he's trying to undermine the investi...

Which is what harwood is saying is exactly what the republicans are saying. they want the impeachment issue because they want to energize their base. every democrat i have spoken to with the exemtion exception of the maxine waters and the extreme left. but it's wrong on principle it's the equivalent of lock her up, which they had it. the media at large. the media is not one big blob. media individuals who repeat that would be wrong and irresponsible. howie: i'm sure trump was a factor in ryan's decision. but it's only been three years since john boehner quit in frustration. now can any republi...