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Times" to "washington post" to fox and heat street and others, what about this as potential evidence. and also as i understood it, said surveillance, wiretapping, we talked about that. >> did you watch my opening statement? he never said -- i put up exactly what he said in those tweets. never said surveillance. very specific -- >> that's true. >> he said mccarthyism, comparing former president to joseph mccarthy and also to richard nixon, i was wrong, i said he was impeached. they were drawing up impeachment papers and he resigned. said a bad sick guy. a personal attack on the former president...

Against richard nixon. >> exactly. richard nixon was not -- they didn't have it in the impeachment papers against nixon because lying is bad but because by lying about the specific things he was lying about, he was trying to cover up existence of a crime that he knew had happened. >> yes. >> and that was in the minds of the people that voted for those articles of impeachment, that was a criminal matter, not just a bad character trait. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks, lawrence. good luck, my friend. >> well, as you just heard, president trump knew. he has always known. and that has been kind of...

Mind. >> stuff like this found its way into a bill of impeachment against richard nixon. >> exactly. richard nixon was not -- they didn't have it in the impeachment papers against nixon because lying is bad but because by lying about the specific things he was lying about, he was trying to cover up existence of a crime that he knew had happened. >> yes. >> and that was in the minds of the people that voted for those articles of impeachment, that was a criminal matter, not just a bad character trait. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks, lawrence. good luck, my friend. >> well, as you just heard, pr...

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