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Back-and-forth. so, i think the more that he plays on the impeachment, the less that he offers solutions for the future, the more he risks in terms of his election in 2020. but at the same time, this president has defied expectations time and time again. every bit of conventional wisdom goes out the door with him. the things that would have taken down presidents in the past don't seem to stick here. and i think he's hoping that that luck just continues and that his base remains loyal to him, no matter what he does. >> well, let's look again at the latest impeachment poll, which shows americans...

Last thursday where 52 to 36% among likely voters, they said this is apolitical, not a legal impeachment. only one-third thinks it has to do with illegal. 47 to 33%, the voters said the president shouldn't comply with this because it is being held in secret and he doesn't have due process. and 59% of all voters said this is a waste of time, and congress needs to start solving the nation's problems. and "the washington post" the next day attacked us for the worst impeachment poll ever, because their poll when they put it out last time, they had to be republicans, too many democrats. >> laura: t...

Precisely because they are reacting to the numbers. we had a poll that we put out last thursday where 52 to 36% among likely voters, they said this is a political, not a legal impeachment. only one-third thinks it has to do with illegal. 47 to 33%, the voters said the president shouldn't comply with this because it is being held in secret and he doesn't have due process. and 59% of all voters said this is a waste of time, and congress needs to start solving the nation's problems. and "the washington post" the next day attacked us for the worst impeachment poll ever because their poll when they...

Judge howell is a good example on friday. and then when you look at the number of hours of testimony, and i'm going to full screen seven here, 65 plus hours of testimony, 14 subpoenas that have been issued. and you see the number of those who have given testimony. and then you go to our nbc survey monkey impeachment poll in terms of the numbers growing independence is the number that if you are running for president or you are going for an office in any one of the districts across the country, you are watching that middle group, right? 53% saying yes in removal from office. how is this resonat...

Will join us tonight. we'll ask him about the trump roads that lead to putin. including donald trump's abandonment of the kurds and how that serve s vladimir putin. a point that was made strongly today by some republican senators. speaker pelosi stood up to donald trump and said "all roads with you lead to putin." after an incoherent rantly dr b donald trump which she described to reporters this way. >> go ahead. >> on the part of the president was a meltdown. sad to say. >> what we have to be melting down about, there's the bipartisan resolution that passed the house of representatives today ...