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Flip-flops on, there was quid pro quo, there wasn't quid pro quo, and i mean, if you really can't credit anything that these folks are representing, at this point. >> you know, michael, as you put on your counsel to the house judiciary committee, a former hat you had during the nixon impeachment process and inquiry, what is it that is happening right now with the judiciary committee? they are the committee, they are going to put together the articles of impeachment. have they already warmed up the engine here as they watched the other committees led by adam schiff right now gather all of their...

On your former hat you had during the nixon impeachment process and inquiry, what is it that is happening right now with the judiciary committee? they are the committee that are going to put together the articles of impeachment. have they already warmed up the engine here as they watch the other committees led by adam schiff right now gather all of their data? what are they doing right now? >> well, i think adam schiff's taking the lead. you know, there's nothing in the constitution that requires the house judiciary committee to write the articles of impeachment. that's been the case. it was t...

But you can also just start it yourself. >> impeachments have been started in several ways. even the nixon impeachment, the house directed the judiciary committee to do an impeachment -- to investigate impeachment articles about six months after the committee started doing that. >> yes. >> there have been a number of impeachments where the house never made such a vote, a number of impeachments that went through where the committee did it on its own initiative. we certainly have ample power to do that, and we're doing it. >> if this moves to formal consideration of articles of impeachment where...

We may introduce others. and at the conclusion of our investigations, we will either vote on those impeachment resolutions or maybe we'll vote on essential or something, but that's all being considered now. >> in other words, this looks a lot -- this could look a lot like the legislative process might, on some sort of criminal justice legislation moving through your committee, which is to say you're investigating some kind of criminal justice reform, and after having a bunch of informational hearings about it, at a certain point the chairman just comes out with basically a schedule saying, we'...

Ahead. >> there are consideration of articles of impeachment among other remedies. there is nothing called formal consideration. we are investigating the actions of the president. we have impeachment resolutions on file with the committee. we may introduce others. and at the conclusion of our investigations, we will either vote on those impeachment resolutions or maybe we'll vote on essential or something, but that's all being considered now. >> in other words, this looks a lot -- this could look a lot like the legislative process might, on some sort of criminal justice legislation moving thro...